Delhi, Hurriyat Talks Sans Pak Futile: Qureshi

Srinagar, Nov 20- Pakistan today said that any talks between the Indian government and Kashmiri leaders will not be successful without its involvement.
Quoting Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi Press Trust of India today said that any bilateral talks between New Delhi and Hurriyat Conference without Islamabad are doomed to fail.
Such talks will "not be successful" unless Pakistan is involved in them, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi told reporters in his home town of Multan, according to the report.
His comments came a day after a meeting of Hurriyat Conference led by Mirwaiz Umer Farooq in Srinagar, to decide if they should go for talks with New Delhi remained inconclusive, with some of them demanding that all stakeholders, including leaders from outside the separatist amalgam be taken into confidence before going ahead.
Qureshi also denied reports that there were back channels contacts between India and Pakistan.
KO Monitoring Desk

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Peacemaker - Translated meaning of the above

|122.169.139.xxx |2009-11-22 01:19:11

"Even if the Kashmir issue is resolved, Pakistan would not let peace prevail in the valley." This is what he means.
Terrorism employs 1/4th of the population on the other side of the border.

I want to ask all those Indian Army bashers, how
different is Pakistan towards terrorists against its country? Do you think no innocents would have been killed? Would you label
the same as 'state sponsored' just as you are labeling India? India, despite all its flaws doesnot even believe in using its army
against the maoists and the Pakistan government has allowed the use of Drones against its own people. But, the problem is not only
is there no freedom, there is no freedom of expression either. If everything is hunky-dory in Islamic Pakistan, why are there so
many freedom struggles there??

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Mustafa - Does Pakistan Care Kashmiris, or only themselves?

|76.164.120.xxx |2009-11-22 14:37:19

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Pradeep - -please concentrate on development rather joining

|122.171.17.xxx |2009-11-22 16:58:33

I am not sure about the ground realities of Kashmir, but I have a humble request to Kashmiris who bat for separate country, you
should never forget the history of Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have been separated from India, and both countries are still to
reach anywhere in terms of development, security and poverty alleviation. Also to mention they are now the biggest threat to world
peace and to India in particular.

So please be sensible and do not listen to separatists like Geelani, who is a person who never
won an election and do not have the right to speak on behalf of the people of Kashmir. Let him contest in an Election and win all
the seats in Kashmir valley then everyone would force to listen to him.Having said that, he has all the right protest and raise
his concerns as a normal citizen

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Dr. SUD Ayoobi - @ Pradeep

|95.58.49.xxx |2009-11-26 12:31:32

Pradeep. You rightly said that you are not aware of ground realities in Kashmir, I appritiate that but then you started
commentiong on the issues you have zellish knowledge about or want to close your eyes on....!! as most of indians are kept under
the false media campaign against Kashmiris generally since last 62 years & perticularly for last 20 years.
Let me tell from the
ground...!! Kashmiris are for Devolopment, but not for the development at the cost of their diginity...Which has been raped by
indian agressor forces & occupiers since last 62 years.. We are for Peace but not for Silence (which india & indian media name as
so called peace) Jammu & Kashmir is a disputed Country invaded by indian forces in 1947 under a non valid treaty of maharaja, who
was on large at Delhi at the moment of treaty, So please accept the truth" Pakistan & Bangladesh are Ex-india but Kashmir was
never india even before 1947". So india has no right to keep Kashmir hostile for 62 long years. On the otherhand you mentioned
Geelani never fought elections..!! you are absolutely wrong.. Let me tell you he fought Elections till 1987. and won twice, So you
please update your info about the Iron Man of Kashmir. The Real LION HEART is our Great Treasure & we Listen to his every call.
Its india who does not want to listen his all genuine calls, because they are afraid of truth & Truth is always bitter. Thats
Indian Demon-Crazy is a cock-fight between Ghandi Family (congress)and RSS family (bjp & bajrang dal) and all other institutions
be it judiciary,army, cbi, elction commision, police, admnistration or even political parties are mere spectators of this Cock
Fight..!!

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ba - well open ur eyes..

|59.94.187.xxx |2009-11-22 17:05:46

distinguish between terriorism and freedom struglle my friend and u will have ur answer...
there are UN resolutions pending about
kashmir ..RSD granted and Un and even acknowdleged by ur prime minister J L Nehru..now you will say they have lost the
validity..how can you say that and without consulting kashmiris about the invalidity indian say they are not valid..speaking on
our behalf...open ur eyes and see the facts..even ur new freinds say now kashmir is a dispute and india has to solve it ..ball is
in ur court my freind ..no argument will justify ur killings here..in just 20 yrs 1 00 000 kashmirs lost thier lives.time has come
to face it all up

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Dr. O. P. Sudrania - bilal - ba - well open ur eyes

|117.201.112.xxx |2009-12-01 04:21:42

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bilal ahmad - U NEED HELP SUDRANIA

|152.23.63.xxx |2009-12-01 22:57:13

Sudrania, U need help, U have what in medical terminology is referred to as flight of ideas that make you a schizophrenic. Go see
a psychiatrist.
Don't worry about numbers, take care of your mental health first.Don't ever dare to quote Beig he is an Indian
stooge and recently accepted that publicly at a conference in Delhi.
I hope good sense prevails on you and you consult a mental
health specialist.

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dr. o. p. sudrania - bilal ahmad

|117.201.115.xxx |2009-12-10 08:43:20

Have you killed them all in the Valley? You seem to be very familiar with the psychitrists. You suspect everybody in your own way.
Stay that way. It will do you good.

Namaste

Dr. O. P. Sudrania

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Z a shah

|166.137.132.xxx |2009-12-02 20:27:27

Please do not forget 200000 innocent live lost in 1947 in Jammu,kathua,Bisholi,Udahampur and samba.

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Rashid khan - @ Mustafa......

|77.69.195.xxx |2009-12-03 15:02:02

My dear Mustafa.....it is Pakistan who has put its survival at stake just because of Kashmiri brothers...Kashmiri and Pakistanis
do share everything, blood, flesh, ethnic history, political future, religion etc. i can not accept ur point of view that Pakistan
cares punjabi only....it non sense, negative thinking and indian backed view which some of our brothers here in kashmir
propogate, they must have been influenced by Mr. Baig of PDP or AZAD of Congress pupet. they all speak indian language. this is an
attempt to divide muslims and rule..exact is the case in Kashmir. If Kashmiri had been offered right to self determination on
1947. the course of history would have been different. Kashmir along with Pakistan would have been peaceful, properous and
developed much than indian states! if u look at Azad Kashmir, they have very much inter mingled with Pashto speaking brothers and
punjabi speaking brothers. there has never been any dispute, violence, riots or mass killings among , pushto, punjabis, kashmiris
due to language!! moreover, Punjab, NWFP and Kashmir has been attached to each other naturally...it is strong bond no force can
divide us!! united we stand, divided we fall. exact is the case here in our beloved kashmir...we are divided by Indian
establishment and are being supressed and being ruled from dehli....!! wake up my PDP or NC brothers.....join freedom movement

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bilal ahmad - Sudrania, I am a Pshychiatrist

|152.23.63.xxx |2009-12-11 00:46:34

Mr Sudrania,
For your information unlike you I am a doctor in real life and to add to your displeasure I am board
certified in Pshychiatry(USA).
You are right though Physicians were killed in kashmir by the indian intelligence
agencies. Dr Guroo, Dr Ashai (Refer To book by wajahat habibullah RTI chief of ur country) Shame on the indian nation and its so
called intellectuals like you.
On a more serious note if you don't find a pshychiatrist in india I can ask one of my colleagues
to help you. You need HELP asap.

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